TV host blasts transgender
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Conflict arose when a transgender activist insisted that a host on Britain’s TalkTV address them using their preferred pronouns.
Shivani Dave
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Shivani Dave, who describes herself as a journalist, broadcaster, and physicist and identifies as transgender, appeared on TalkTV to talk about a recent report concerning medical and social services for transgender children in England.
Biological female
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TalkTV host Julia Hartley-Brewer introduced Dave, a biological female, as “she.”
Pronouns
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Dave took offense to this, immediately instructing Hartley-Brewer that “[her] pronouns are they/them.”
Correct grammar
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Hartley-Brewer was quick to fire back. “Thank you for telling me your pronouns. I use correct grammar,” she said.
Curtailing her speech
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She went on to call out Dave’s attempt at curtailing her speech. “You don’t get to require me to use incorrect grammar,” Hartley-Brewer said. “You’re not a plural, you’re one person.”
Disrespectful
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When Dave said that she wanted people to “refer to her correctly,” Hartley-Brewer asked if it was “disrespectful to use factual correct grammar.”
Out of line
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Dave indicated Hartley-Brewer was out of line because Dave is “not a single woman. I’m a very special non-binary trans person.”
Transgender health services
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Dave appeared on the show to discuss the recently released Cass Review, a report on transgender health services conducted by English pediatrician Dr. Hilary Cass.
259-page report
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The 259-page report, commissioned by NHS England in 2020, aimed to provide recommendations on the provision of services for children grappling with their gender identities.
Lack of evidence
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Cass’s findings indicated a lack of substantial long-term evidence supporting the benefits of medical interventions, particularly puberty blockers, for children under 18 who identify as transgender. The report also highlighted uncertainties regarding the overall impact of such interventions on young individuals.
Long-term effects
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Moreover, Cass raised concerns about the unknown long-term effects of puberty blockers, emphasizing the need for further research before administering these hormones to children.
Greatly benefit
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According to Dave, the results of Cass’s research indicate that conducting additional studies would greatly benefit the advancement of transgender healthcare. She also mentioned that certain conclusions drawn by Cass could positively impact transgender children “if appropriately executed,” without elaborating on what she meant by this.
Trans child
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While the hostilities seemed to diffuse for a moment, the discussion heated back up when Hartley-Brewer stated she “[doesn’t] accept that there is any such thing as a trans child.”
Astonishment
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Dave expressed her astonishment that someone like Hartley-Brewer, who holds a particular opinion, was not a doctor overseeing services for transgender children.
Wrong body
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“You don’t have to be a doctor to know that no one is born in the wrong body,” Hartley-Brewer responded.
Frustration
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Dave and Hartley-Brewer engaged in a continued exchange for the rest of the segment. This interaction underscores a growing frustration with transgender activists attempting to dictate language and thought. They criticize others as intolerant bigots for adhering to long-standing grammatical norms until recently.
Demand respect
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People are unlikely to heed those who demand respect without showing it themselves. As Hartley-Brewer emphasized, “respect is a two-way street.”
Overshadowed
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This dialogue exposes a shift in Western culture towards relativism, where objective truths are overshadowed by subjective interpretations.
Individual preferences
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Essentially, the concept of truth has become malleable, shaped by individual preferences. Even when presented with a study refuting the effectiveness of puberty blockers and social transitioning for gender-questioning children, Dave appeared dismissive of any concerns.
