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MSNBC Guest Challenges Host on Controversial Book in Schools

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MSNBC’s Joy Reid interviewed Moms for Liberty co-founder Tiffany Justice, discussing book bans in public school libraries.

Reid attempted to portray the organization as opposing parental rights, but Justice countered, emphasizing parental control and concerns about explicit content in books.

The conversation revealed a clash of perspectives, with Reid’s focus on book bans and Justice’s emphasis on parental responsibility and content appropriateness.

“Yes, it’s a God-given right to direct the upbringing of your children,” Justice said.

“Do LGBTQ parents and parents of LGBT kids, do they have parental rights?” Reid asked.

“Every parent,” Justice said. “Every parent has the fundamental right to direct the upbringing of their kids.”

“Why should 13 people get to decide what books tens of thousands of children get to read?” Reid asked.

“Well, I’m thinking it’s probably because those 13 people saw what some of the content was in the books,” Justice said.

“Explicit, graphic sexual content — and I’m happy to talk about some of that content if you would like to.”

“Well, this is the question again — the books that are being banned, I want to give you -” Reid began.

“No books are being banned,” Justice interjected. “I want to be clear, no one is banning books. Write the book, publish the book, put it in a public library. We’re talking about a public school library.”

“Children don’t have unfettered access to the internet at school,” she added. “I did a records request and I wanted to see what kind of internet sites are banned in schools. If we’re going to talk about banning, and the subject matter in the books that moms are concerned about, they’re the same things that kids don’t have access to on the internet.

“So it just feels very hypocritical, right? Why is no one out there protesting for, you know, ‘Free the internet in schools!’?”

“The question I’m asking is, what is the expertise that you have — and other Moms for Liberty advocates have — to decide that a book, an award-winning book like ‘All Boys Aren’t Blue,’ isn’t appropriate for students to read?” Reid asked.

“What a tragic story of a young man who is anally raped by his adult family members,” Justice said.

“You have incest, rape, pedophilia … in what context is a strap-on dildo acceptable for public school? That’s my question to you. Tell me what the context around the strap-on dildo or the rape of a minor child by a teacher — we’re talking about a public school.”

Regarding “All Boys Aren’t Blue,” Reid noted that Justice was “not an expert in this book.”

“I don’t have to be an expert to know dildos are not for public school,” Justice said.

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